Permanent damage from lack of use?

topic posted Thu, October 27, 2005 - 8:57 AM by  JZ
I have been reading posts from this tribe with great interest. A very basic question has been nagging me, and I'm sure you can help.

I understand that the brain has plasticity and what you use is more fine tuned; what you don't you 'lose'. The piano player and the juggler examples I understand well enough-- at my level of not having studied the brain, anyway.

So tell me this. I'm 34 years old, and after a decade of being --quite frankly, lazy with my brain in the sense that I haven't been reading novel after novel as I used to, and I haven't had to memorize facts like I did when attending school (career for last decade: flight attendant, biggest problem: almost incessant jet-lag), I wonder--

Have I done some sort of permanent damage to the capacity that I once had to retain and process information? Because I was reading in one of your posts that some of those neurons die if not uses. I always figured that, like muscles, they become weak, but I didn't believe that they could be rendered useless at some point-- speaking during my 30's, not speaking about those who fall ill to such diseases such as Alzheimer's.

I plan to go back to school to receive a (new) Master's degree. I'm wondering if my last decade of mental laziness will make my ability to get back on track and fill my head with new facts, ideas, and memorization will be much more difficult then, say, if I hadn't let so much time pass while allowing parts of my brain to 'atrophy like muscles unused'.

Pardon the difficulty I'm having to propose a clear question-- but do you understand what I'm wondering, and if so, any feedback?
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    Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

    Thu, October 27, 2005 - 2:45 PM
    In short: no one knows. This is an extremely difficult and complicated question wrapped in many current neuroscience debates. The brain is highly adaptable and you can always learn new information.

    Don't let your fear of damage inhibit your desire to move forward and learn. Rather than concerning yourself over your limits, work yourself until you reach them. My guess is you will never reach a day when you feel as though you can learn no more.
    • Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

      Thu, October 27, 2005 - 3:31 PM
      Too bad you can't answer my question. Maybe someone else will give me their opinion. But I trust you in that the answers are debatable.

      But your advice is very wise, my friend, and I would never let that fear get in my way. Great to hear your response.
  • Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

    Thu, October 27, 2005 - 3:37 PM
    Your question reminds me of this study I saw just recently online... It was talking about Alzheimer's, and the researchers said that "Overuse" of the brain could result in the disease! Something about the areas getting "burned out" or something. I didn't buy it, and I can't find the article, now (anybody else remember it?) but I thought it was funny, and opposite of your question.

    I wouldn't think there'll be any permanent problems with your brain and going back to school. Lots of recent studies have showed that even if entire sections of the brain are damaged (which yours isn't), others can adapt to take the incoming data.

    The biggest issues will probably manifest themselves in your getting bored while reading, or frustrated trying to keep attention on a subject, or trying to focus on a lecture, easily getting distracted while doing homework... If anything, it would probably just be the "habit" type of stuff that'll give ya troubles, which is a sort of brain-re-training issue. Your brain's used to doing other stuff these days, so it could take a bit to get it back into school-habits. Taking up some sort of meditation may help, just to speed up the process of getting used to holding focus again.

    You may have saved yourself from alzheimer's, though!
    • Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

      Thu, October 27, 2005 - 3:47 PM
      Well that's great news from you, Rob, on this dreary October day! Very interesting. I'm glad you guys are taking my question seriously, as it is daunting to even attempt at posting on such a tribe with such big brains (!) hanging out here! No, I'm not putting myself down, now. But I am not a brain surgeon, either! Good answers, guys. Now I've gotta go and tell all of those mid-life crossword puzzle addicts to STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING! This could be hazardous to your health!
      • Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

        Sat, August 19, 2006 - 8:40 AM
        I am an occupational therapist and a practitioner of something called brain gym. I am also doing futher study on other modalities to enhance brain function. Form what I know and what I've observed in working with children and adults, the brain is plastic(like you said) and though it slows down as we grow, the area in the brain called the hippocampus, which has to do with acquiring new information and memory, is active until we die. Also, doing puzzles and such may feel like you're working out your brain, but the best, quickest way to provide alerting input to your brain is through movement. If you think about how the brain knows what is going on around you, is that it uses the senses and without input from the senses, the brain in essence goes to sleep. (when I say senses, I mean the ones we typically think of i.e. hearing, seeing, touch, smell, taste, as well as other internal senses such as proprioception-knowing where your body is in space, and vestibular input-key sense in muscle tone, head position--this is very simplified by the way) There are other factors to consider from a sensory integration perspective if you for one do not enjoy the sensation of movement or tend to have low muscle tone which makes it more challenging or (feel like) it takes more "effort" to move. So in my experience and opinion, the best thing to do to "wake up" your brain immediately, is to move your body--bike, run, walk, jump on a trampoline, whatever. There's a good book by a woman named Carla Hannaford( a neurobiologist) called "Smart Moves: why learning is not all in your head" and it talks more in detail about how our neurology is hooked up to the body. It's really good and maybe helpful in answering your questions.
  • Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

    Mon, August 21, 2006 - 2:24 PM
    So then is sensory stimulation all we need to keep our brain functioning at an optmal level. Or does the stimulation have to be specific to higher levels of brain function?
    • Re: Permanent damage from lack of use?

      Wed, September 6, 2006 - 9:31 PM
      Actually, I don't believe that stimulation in itself is enough to support "optimal" brain functioning. Interaction with the stimuli, either forced or not, seems to have as much to do with it.

      I'm thinking of the experiment with the two cats in a circular room of stripes.... There was one cat that was strapped into a harness where he would walk around the room, and then another that was riding in a cage simply being pulled along by the first cat. The cat that was doing the walking (interacting with the room directly) ended up developing some sort of recurring brain structure directly in relation to the frequency of the stripes in the room with the speed with which it was walking. From what I've heard, the cat that simply sat "along for the ride" did not develop the same relation.

      It seems to be the difference between watching something on television (where research shows the brain hibernating in an ultra-relaxed state) as opposed to playing a sport or something where direct physical interaction occurs.

      Interesting point to bring up, rashel!

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